this time the players are right It's not a free ball. we don't get to see the right angle but if you put yourself in line with the ball the ref brought to sight the free ball that ball must surely hit the extremity of the ball.
God this was such bullshit. Happens to often at the minute with players basically making the decision themselves. Refs need to be alot firming by making a decision and sticking with it
The first point to make is that people such as Neal Foulds should get their facts right: the initial decision was that it was NOT a free ball until challenged by Lisowski, so if Foulds wants to criticise Allen for challenging, he should start by criticising Lisowski for challenging. The second point is that it is poor refereeing for a number of reasons: she started by being confident that it wasn't a free ball without any checking, she then should not change her view when challenged by Lisowski (even if she's got it wrong her original judgment should stand), she then gives a changed decision when she cannot be reasonably sure (she needs to understand the rules about levels of certainty), then she reverts to her initial decision. I know she has a very top reputation in the game but her refereeing is extremely poor on this occasion. If Foulds and co are going to throw dirt in Allen's direction, then the same should apply to Lisowski.
that first camera shot with just the extra red next to the yellow it looks like thinnest you could hit it was 1/2 ball, but then when the 2nd one is added it looks like the 2 extra reds and white are lined up.
maybe a laser pen would be useful for refs to carry, rather than trying to judge with human eye
Mark Allen you complete and utter cheat.
Are they all blind or what. You can’t argue that. It’s sticking out like a sore thumb.
It’s not a free ball. He can see the red past the yellow full ball.
this time the players are right It's not a free ball. we don't get to see the right angle but if you put yourself in line with the ball the ref brought to sight the free ball that ball must surely hit the extremity of the ball.
Either the Refs in charge or not. The Ref decision should be respected. Otherwise they might as well do without the Ref. Very poor by both players.
This put me off mark allen… if it had been him awarded the free ball he would have argued for it.
Never watch Allen again
Why does Jack get involved?
Surely it's the refs decision?
I'm surprised Ben Williams the marker there dident come out.he thinks he knows it all
The ref dident say much .was her decision after all.
You have to be not able to hit the extreme edge of both sides for free ball.this is free ball.this ref is about the poorest one
God this was such bullshit. Happens to often at the minute with players basically making the decision themselves. Refs need to be alot firming by making a decision and sticking with it
They need to learn to accept the refs decision
Ref should be more assertive in these situations. She's in charge, not the players.
Years ago they'd have told to get on with the game.
Idiotic Anglo view of things, as usual.
Discussions about half of a half of a thin hair 🤔
pure wanker that allen prob needs the win after all his spending, fucking creep out of the north
From what can be seen here, i dont think it was a free ball.
I like mark but if the ref and jack are both saying it’s a free ball then it is
The first point to make is that people such as Neal Foulds should get their facts right: the initial decision was that it was NOT a free ball until challenged by Lisowski, so if Foulds wants to criticise Allen for challenging, he should start by criticising Lisowski for challenging. The second point is that it is poor refereeing for a number of reasons: she started by being confident that it wasn't a free ball without any checking, she then should not change her view when challenged by Lisowski (even if she's got it wrong her original judgment should stand), she then gives a changed decision when she cannot be reasonably sure (she needs to understand the rules about levels of certainty), then she reverts to her initial decision. I know she has a very top reputation in the game but her refereeing is extremely poor on this occasion. If Foulds and co are going to throw dirt in Allen's direction, then the same should apply to Lisowski.
It was not a free ball
I spoke it makes a change from Chinese player chucking frames.
She is so beautyfull. .date for lunch thats it..
that first camera shot with just the extra red next to the yellow it looks like thinnest you could hit it was 1/2 ball, but then when the 2nd one is added it looks like the 2 extra reds and white are lined up.
maybe a laser pen would be useful for refs to carry, rather than trying to judge with human eye